hey "jake" i'm pedro i'm 14 i have 2 12's their pioneer (in my room if u want to see pictures email me pedrocool4u101@hotmail.com) i have an xlc punch its 10" it bumpz pretty good but wen i picked it up i axidently ripped the soft part of the outer rim i guess but i want to fix it but i dont know what to do so if u want to email me and tell me i would apreciate it.